091813-transcript

Work session:

Kathryn

Jamie: What we have been told by our insurance company is that they have investigated

written statements forwarded to the investigator, were satisfied with what they had received, and having received nothing more it wasn't actionable at that point. And given the fact that we had an investigation that was basically taken out of our hands, this has happened before that once that step has happened, we can't reverse it. We cvan't go back and say, but now we're going to do our own. .... that by our attorneys that we have an outside investigator, we had an outside investigator, -------------------------- and at this point, there is nothing more to do. So, in response to having an executive session, it has gone past that point. We are no longer -------------------- other than from the investigator who was assigned _________________________ at this point there is nothing more to do. cough cough There's nothing more to do at this point.

Kathryn

Jamie: The current chair at the time, Carol Slweing, as the complaints came forward we took a step back to see what we needed to do to have an executive session, how do we handle the complaints appropriately, There was communications through the attorneys at OSBA as well as the attorney through Case (?) and when Case understood what was going on, they basically said "We are going to do our own investigation" __________ heard up to this point "we don't want to take a chance." And so, they pursued the investigation at that point, and that was really the recommendation we had from OSBA is that we needed an outside person. There really wasn't anybody within the district that would not be considered a conflict of interest. to have an internal investigation. And so, at that point, its ---------------------- investigator and that investigation did not turn up things to be pursued. So that's where we're at.

Kathryn to Brian: You said it was on hold because they had only received two letters, do you know the young ladies why they haven't submitted a letter

Debbie: Because actually according to ORS when you go to an administrator that you have been bullied, ______________________ harassed, that is a formal complaint. So why would you have to go back and write it up again?

Jamie: Beacuse we're being told that's what we have to do. So it's not in our hands to do anything differently so I'm curious to know why

Debbie: The other question is how your own insurance com-pany

Jamie: Because they're covering their own behind.

Brian: Right

Jamie: Their __________ and their own. They want to be sure that we are not putting ourselves in a position for them to fork out a bunch of money. So I don't know who would have more interest in being sure that it was being very throughly being investigated and absolutely being taken carae of .

Kathryn: And I think it's really important to note, given a small community, that in the best interestes of the students who had complaints why to take it out of our district _______________________ I think it's a two-way ____________________________________ I'm just concerned why they haven';t taken the time given that that's what we were instructed to do and they're basically putting it on hold so that tellss me that they would like the letters. and that they would very much want that information.

Brian: I don't know that they wouldl say . They can only deal with what they've got (Wrong. They can do what board policy says and hold an executive session where the complaintants can present their cases, not limited to three or five minutes.

Jamie: And I would have to say too that it would be a pretty shoddy investigation if they were only taking second-hand information from those how were _________________ directly at fault. That would not be impartial information. Our coaches or our administration relaying what they've heard rather than getting it directly

Debbie: One of the girls asked the question that they were supposed to put theirsin in writing but the individuals who were perpetrating it were interviewed in person. Why were they have to report differently?

Jamie: I have no idea why they performed their investigation the way that they did other than to say that this is their business and it's not the first time that they've been through this. I'm sure there's a reason for it. I think also from my own experience that the burden of proof is on the complainant of the complaint - bring it forward. and then they are asking for responses from the persons accused I think that's not an unusual way. I would also like to clarify in the last board meeeting there was a question asked related to this issue about the resignation of the girl's basketball coach. in question. And the response was given that a letter of resignation would be submitted. And I need to clarify that that given the fact that there was not actually a contract in place, since the contract had been tabled and there is no existing contract there's nothing from which to resign. The extra duty contract has to be renewed every year It doesn't automatically continue in a coaching position so it's not for us to say a letter of resignation There's simply not going to be a reaplication for that position, so I hope that clarifys . You can't resign from a position ___________ Had we accepted the application then the resignation would be necessary but it was not accepted ______________________.

1:53:00 - Kathryn: The travel issue. Answer.

1:56:00 when to meet on policies.

1:58:10 - Brian - Can vote on Policies at a work session.

2:00:40 - Brian - 183

2:01:15 Kathryn: Clay I know that you also report the ________________ survey . The thing I'm grateful for is that we're getting better data (covering those specific areas?) I know from having students and having children that are actually for the most part are good kids, are telling me that they, because it's anonymous, often don't (when they give their identity I would say that woulod be even a bigger reason to lie. How do you get the truth out of kids these days?) take the surveys truthfully that my son's a junior "Well, mom, I know a bunch of kids who just wrote that they did drugs when they didn't. So I think we have to be careful (what makes you think you son wasn't lieing to you and may be actually doing drugs.) at where we get, how we make our decisions and what we're basing our decisions on. I don't know that that survey is really the best solution. (Other districts actually take the information, don't ignore what it says, and develop programs to address the issues to brings up. The survey numbers are pretty consistant over the years and actually ask whether students told the truth or lied on any of the survey questions and 3% said they lied, unless they were lieing in answering that question.) There's got to be another way. given what I've had students tell me.

2:02:14 - Jamie - Adjourned.

2:o2:20 to Brian - Me - Are the changes noted on these documents? what is actually being changed? Or is it just a print out of the old policy or new policy.

Brian - _________ the changes.

Gordon: I don't want all of them but I do want about 2- of them Would it be better to take one of these or to order those.

Brian": Absolutely not. Expensive. When we're through, absolutely.

Gordon:: I'm just looking at 15 or 20 that I have comments on and would need to know what the actually policy on

Gordon: Your actual policy, you can't vote on them at the one meeting You have to wait until the first regular board meeting ____________________________________ Unless it's an emergenchy.

Brian: The board does not have to have the second reading. Pull it up. We'll figure it out.

Gordon: I will. Okay I'll bring in the list the ones I want to review

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